In this interview, Prof Wolff emphasizes the symbiotic relationship between capitalism and socialism, framing socialism as a response to the failings of capitalism. The fall of the Soviet Union doesn't signal the end of socialism but a shift towards capitalist systems. Dissatisfied employees excluded from decision-making will lead movements for change, aiming to democratize workplaces by erasing the employer-employee divide. A future society with diminished state involvement and power redistributed among workers to serve collective interests is envisioned. Additionally, merging experienced voices with younger generations is advocated to construct a future beyond capitalism.